Christmas?

i have been reading up on this word and the holiday (which we know comes from paganism - we still do a lot of it), but did you know this?



Christ Mass - Death of Christ - the word mass also means eating the flesh of your sacrificed god, which is what Roman Catholics believe they do during the eucharist (lord's supper/communion)



I also just read that mass can mean "dismissal" - which would make Merry Christmas mean the dismissal of Christ.



Does anyone else have any knowledge about the origin of this word or origin of this holiday?





I have always celebrated Christmas, but may begin doing it differently after this knowledge. :) Thanks for any info.Christmas?Christmas



ORIGIN OF THE WORD

The word for Christmas in late Old English is Cristes Maesse, the Mass of Christ, first found in 1038.



If you want detailed info on Christmas/Catholics, go to the link below. It's lengthy, but may give you some insight. And please if Christmas is a day that you normally celebrate by spending time with your family, then please continue to do so. This is how the wise men celebrated the birth of Jesus, (by giving him gifts).Christmas?
It is originally "Saturnalia", a pagan festival. You might want to look that up.



Catholics incorporated paganism, as they have done on countless things, making a false religion called catholicism that cannot save anyone.Christmas?Wow. How can a Christian lie through her teeth like you do?Christmas?
When words have different meanings, just because it "can" mean something doesn't mean it "does" mean something. Regardless of what you call it, celebrating Christmas is a time of honoring Christ's willingness to come to earth and live in human form as part of being eligible to stand in and take the punishment for our sins.



I was told when I was young - perhaps wrongly - that "-mas" was from the Catholic service (Mass).Christmas?Just do a basic Google search on "origins of Christmas"..that's a great place to start....
MOst holidays we americans celebrate all happen as a result to do something other than what the pagans do. Therefore when you celebrate we are to not hold any day higher than another, however we bring light and a day of rememberence on these holidays to make something good come out of somehting satanic.Christmas?
You are correct. Christmas is an abbreviation of the words Christ Mass. It is pagan in its origins, just as Lent and many other aspects of the Catholic religion, which combined babylonian paganism and Christianity. It is believed by many that Jesus was born around the fall feasts (Aug - Oct) and not on Dec 25th. The only 'holidays' that God ordained are mentioned in the 2nd through the 5th books of the bible.



All that being said, do I celebrated Christmas? Yes. Its the one time of the year that my job lets me stay home and get paid and I get to see all of my family and exchange gifts. Does this make me a hypocrite? Well, yes in the eyes of some, but I don't think so. You should seriously seek the counsel of God to determing whether or not to continue celebrating in the manner you are accustomed.
This article may interest you...





http://usminc.org/holidaze.html

(note, you may have to highlight it to read it...)



EDIT:



**The Zeitgeist movie was formed by a group of conspiracy theorists who also believe that 9/11 was an inside job and that the Illuminati control all the world governments. I've seen it myself on Youtube.Christmas?
Christmas did take the place of Saturnalia, the roman festival for the celebration of the harvest and the end of the diminishing levels of sunlight. The winter solstice is on the 21 or 22, and even in ancient Egyptian times, it was said that the sun (RA) stayed still for 3 days and was "reborn" on the 25th or 26th depending on the year. The holiday had deep roots in ancient religions. Krishna was supposedly born on the 25th, as was Mithra.



historical reference aside, Christmas is what you make it. If you celebrate it as a reverence for Jesus Christ, or as the rebirth of the sun and the beginning of the new year, its up to you. The day itself has significance from many stand points, which you choose to acknowledge and honor is your choice.
Hi....



Please go to:



www.zeitgeistmovie.com



A 'very' interesting film, which looks into the whole Jesus scenario, which shows clearly that it 'all' fits into earlier astrological myths!!



I do 'not' celebrate christmas!!



NOTE:

To: Seth N ...

Just because the film moves on to other things, which may or may not be true, this does 'not' mean that the religious part is 'not' correct!!

You cannot dismiss 'all' the claims, by other things stated later in the movie!!!
Christmas is not Pagan. I think you are getting your information from outdated and erroneous books such as The two Babylons and Babylon Mystery Religion. The author of Babylon Mystery Religion, Ralph Woodrow, later recanted his work and wrote The Babylon Connection. Unfortunately, he lost the copyrights to the first book, and it's still in print.



Here's what Woodrow says now:



"No Christian who puts a bumper sticker with a fish symbol on the back of his car has ever done so to honor the fish-god Dagon. No congregation has ever put a cross on a church building for the purpose of honoring Tammuz. No Christian has ever gone to an Easter sunrise service to worship Baal. No Christian has ever worshipped a Christmas tree as an idol. Claims that imply 'all these things started in Babylon,'

are not only divisive and fruitless, they are untrue."



"Mass" in liturgical context can mean different things, as in "assembly" or "communion service". It can mean dismissal of the congregation (as in after the service) but Mass certainly does not mean death or "dismissal of Christ". In the case of Christmas, it means the the celebration of the communion service of Christ. This is what Webster's Dictionary says



http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Mass



Main Entry: Pronunciation: \藞mas\ Function:

noun Etymology: Middle English, from Old English m忙sse, modification of Vulgar Latin *messa, literally, dismissal at the end of a religious service, from Late Latin missa, from Latin, feminine of missus, past participle of mittere to send Date: before 12th century



1capitalized : the liturgy of the Eucharist especially in accordance with the traditional Latin rite

2often capitalized : a celebration of the Eucharist %26lt;Sunday masses held at three different hours%26gt;

3: a musical setting for the ordinary of the Mass



Saturnalia occurred on Dec. 27th. During the Lion Times when Christians were being persecuted, some Christians began to celebrate the birth of Christ on Dec. 25th instead in protest. The first Ch'annukka was celebrated on Dec. 25th by the Western calendar, which is another reason the early Christians celebrate it.
CJ is correct.And yes,Merry Christmas does translate to:Merry Death of Christ.I don't celebrate it.And the word mass was chosen by the RC "church" because of the doctrine of Transubstantiation.Incidentally.the phrase hocus pocus was used to describe that practice as a pun on the latin phrase uttered prior to breaking the host and imbibing the wine.Anyone reading the Gospels can see the symbolic intent of the bread and wine.But when papal authority is more esteemed than God's Word,then anything goes.
Holidays are what YOU make them. They honor what you choose to honor on that day, not what someone else is honoring on that day, or what another group honored millenia ago.



Many people celebrate Christmas in a purely cultural sense, others in a purely religious sense.



If you would like to honor the birth of Christ, do so, don't worry about what other Christians are doing, what the Romans are doing or what pagans are doing on or around the same day.



The fact that different faiths celebrate a holiday on or around the same time does not make them the same holiday, even when culturally they may use the same name or share some symbols.



Do your holidays in a manner that is consistent and appropriate to your faith.
Some of the responses that have been posted have made me very sad. People are more interested in suggesting beliefs other than their own are "evil".

Different people have different views. Since none of us were around thousands of years ago NONE of us can truly know what happened, who said what or what was or wasn't derived from other beliefs, we only have opinions and beliefs. Based on what other peoples research and knowledge.



What is factual, which I think you are looking for is that you believe in a higher power. Christmas no matter what it meant in the past or where it comes from is now meant to be the remembrance of that higher power and a celebation of love and giving. A day to put differences aside and embrace your neighbor. Honoring an icon of non-descrimination. If you believe in God and Jesus and want to celebrate the love they promote/d then do so.



Honestly most holidays we celebrate today are not the actual day things happened that long ago, calendars are changed and people didn't live a mon-sunday lets write everything down in a journal world. Love and enjoy.



Those that are espousing Christianity only to turn and say someone else whom, they never met and I doubt have even researched make me sad and go against what I believe the most basic principle of Jesus was to love everyone and treat everyone equally.Very sad
You have it a bit twisted around.



The word Mass does come from the Latin word "missa" meaning to send away or dismiss.



But the word "Mass" is used because of the "mission" or "sending" of the congregation with which the liturgical celebration concludes, remembering Jesus mission to (or sending of) us to, "Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit." (Matthew 28:19)



With love in Christ.
again the catholics are on their hate horse



Xmas is a pagan festival for the god Tammuz. he was the pagan sun god and the Catholic church accepted that day to get the pagans (or more likely their money) into the church